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Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine.

My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

Today is my interview with Mike Davis on the politics of coronavirus.

It's given me a lot to think about.

First, it is incredible how the conditions in which we make history can change so quickly and dramatically.

I always knew this in the abstract, but have never, ever,

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