Hello, everybody. Welcome back to psychedelics today. This is Joe Moore coming out from

back in range, Colorado. Today on the show, we have Mike Crowley. Mike Crowley is the author of the secret drugs of Buddhism,

which I think is a long overdue book to be discussed on the show and really excited that

Synergetic Press got us in touch. Mike is a longtime Buddhist practitioner,

psychonaut, and initiate into certain forms of Buddhism.

So this is a really interesting, broad ranging interview.

I think you're going to like it.

Side note, there might be a little bit of a low quality situation going with the audio.

It's not that bad, but wanted to give you kind of a

heads up just in case you were curious if it was your phone or not. No, it's us. So don't worry

about it. And I'm sorry. And we'll try to make it better in the future. So before we let you

hear the interview, just wanted to give you a quick heads up about what's going on over here.

If you want to support us, maybe tell some therapist or nurse friends about navigating psychedelics for clinicians and therapists, which got a really nice review from a past student.

And I wanted to point it out, the class starts in September. You can learn more at psychedelic education center.com.

If you want to dig in and feel free to always ask us questions at psychedelics today, email

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But yeah, here's a review from our student, Jessica.

Jessica states, psychedelics today is a doorway into a welcoming community. I started by listening to

their podcasts and recently completed their integration course for therapists and clinicians.

It was packed full of information and included insightful conversations with like-minded individuals.

Kyle and Joe have an incredible depth of knowledge that is evident in any

conversation around altered states of consciousness. A fantastic resource, I highly recommend

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