I'm already upset when I find my ball in the bunker I'm really upset and when I find my ball in a fried egg fried egg fried egg fried egg fried egg fried egg fried egg fried egg

fried egg lie I'm about ready to run off the golf course Oh, Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to another edition of the fried egg podcast.

Today I'm joined by Mike Cocking, a golf course architect based in Australia and part of the

Ogilvyie, Clayton,

cocking, and Mead design firm.

Mike, welcome on.

Thanks, Andy.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah, excited to talk golf course architecture,

some sand belt, Australia, and learn

a little bit more about your firm and what you guys are doing down under.

Absolutely, yeah, look forward to it.

So I'd love to hear, I think knowing you a little bit, I think you've got a really interesting background how you got into golf course architecture

Why don't you tell us how you got into golf and architecture?

Sure Well, I guess I got into golf.

My first sort of experience with golf

was my parents decided to take the game up when I was about, I don't know, seven or eight.

And they dragged my sister and I out to the golf course and you know wander around with him and we hated it. It was it was not

interesting at all. I probably maybe I would have been hooked if I had been allowed to

swing a club or try and have a hit but they were just new to the game and

probably nervous that I'd, you know, hit a shank and smash a car or something.

So that was sort of my first taste of it and then years later I

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