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I wanted to come here because of this roster, because this coaching staff, because I felt like we had a way to get to the playoffs.

And I felt like we had a pretty clear route to be able to do so.

And, you know, that bad start in the beginning, I think, kind of ate us up.

Why did they eat you guys up?

It was like we never dug out of that hole. It was like once that hole happened, it was like, I don't know how we've been in the knee guys up it was like we never dug out of that hole it was like once that

hole happened it was like uh i don't say we've been in the knee but it was like it wasn't

it didn't seem like it was a way to get out of it it was just you know just stuck in turmoil

that's my cleveringer describing what happened to the White Sox in 2023.

You know, some teams have the ability, the foundation, the medal to come back from an 8-21 start,

but this team did not and thus caused massive change in the clubhouse, in the front office, and with more

changes to come in the offseason. Hey, everyone, it's Chuck Garfine. This is the White

Sox Talk podcast, brought to you, as always, by our great friends at Win Trust. And on the

podcast, I speak with Mike, who has arguably been the White Sox best pitcher.

This after signing with the team last offseason and then being in the middle of that ugly

controversy in his personal life with allegations of domestic abuse and child abuse from the mother

of one of his children.

Mike was eventually cleared of any wrongdoing by Major League Baseball,

and the woman never pressed charges, but the stain of those allegations remain. I speak with Mike

about that. Plus, more on why this season went so off track. His thoughts on possibly coming back next year,

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