Mike & Abbi Prussack - Part 1: A Church with No Name, Isolated Childhoods, and Doomsday Fear

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

This week, Lola and Meagan talk with Mike and Abbi Prussack, former members of Meagan’s childhood church, the 2x2s, also known as The Truth or The Way. The couple, who now help moderate the Ex-2x2 Facebook community, share what it was like growing up in a secretive religious group with no name, no building, and strict rules about who could be “in.”

They open up about meeting and marrying within the church, the single question that shattered their faith, and how leaving forced them to rebuild their identities from scratch.

Next week, part two dives into the FBI investigation, decades of hidden abuse, and what’s happening inside the group now that the truth is finally being exposed.

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0:46.3	Trust me.
0:47.6	Do you trust me?
0:49.3	Would I ever lead you astray?
0:50.8	Trust me.
0:51.7	This is the truth.
0:52.9	The only truth. If anybody ever tells you to just
0:55.9	trust them, don't. Welcome to Trust Me, the podcast about cults, extreme belief, and manipulation
1:03.2	from two non-two-by-toos who've actually experienced it, and I am Lola Blanc. And I am Megan
1:09.9	Elizabeth. An actual former two-by-two right here. Today, our guests are Abby and Mike Prusack, former members of Megan's childhood cult, The Two-by-Twos, also known as the truth or the way. Abbey and Mike are the other two moderators of the ex-2-Fa-2 Facebook group alongside our previous guest, Kyle and Kari. Today, Mike and Abby are going to tell us about their upbringing in the mysterious church that has no name and no official building, how they met and got married in the church, and the simple question that led to them both leaving.
1:37.7	Mike and Abby were super generous with their time, so this conversation will be split into two parts.
1:44.1	Next week, we're going to talk
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