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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Miguel

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.54.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Miguel, the Grammy-winning alt-R&B pioneer is back with a new album, Caos—his first full-length in eight years. It’s the latest step in a career that’s always pushed the boundaries of R&B, from his 2010 debut through albums that blended in psychedelia, dance music, and now touches of ’80s industrial and even ranchera rhythms.

On today’s episode, Miguel talks with Leah Rose about his unreleased 2023 album Viscera and how suspending himself from piercings in his back during its rollout helped him surrender control. He also shares the story of controversial imagery for his single “New Martyrs.” And, despite collaborations with Travis Scott, Mariah Carey, and Tame Impala, Miguel explains why he’s happiest just making music with his friends.

You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Miguel songs HERE.

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:10.8

Miguel, the Grammy-winning alt-R-NB pioneer is back with the new album, Chaos.

0:16.7

His first full-length in eight years.

0:19.1

It's the latest step in a career that's always pushed the boundaries of R&B from his 2010 debut

0:24.1

through albums that dabbled in psychedelia, dance music, and now touches of 80s industrial

0:29.3

and even rancher rhythms.

0:31.4

On today's episode, Miguel talks with Leah Rose about his unreleased 2023 album, Vissera,

0:36.6

and how suspending himself from piercings

0:38.5

in his back during its rollout helped him surrender control. He also shares a story behind

0:43.6

the controversial imagery for his single New Martyrs. And despite collaborations with

0:48.6

Travis Scott, Mariah Carey and Tamampala, Miguel explains why he's happiest just making music

0:54.0

with his friends.

0:57.3

This is Broken Record. Real musicians, real conversations.

1:05.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

1:09.6

We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.

1:15.8

Five, six white people.

1:17.4

Push me in the car.

1:18.2

I'm going, what about that?

1:19.6

Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.

1:23.3

All you got to do is receive the package.

1:25.0

Don't have to open it.

1:26.0

Just accept it.

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