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Tech Won't Save Us

Migrant Workers in Australia’s Gig Economy w/ Tyler Riordan

Tech Won't Save Us

Paris Marx

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4.8626 Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Paris Marx is joined by Tyler Riordan to discuss the state of the gig economy in Australia, the ongoing efforts to improve their conditions, and Tyler’s research on migrant food couriers in Brisbane. Tyler Riordan is a PhD candidate in hospitality and anthropology at the University of Queensland. Follow Tyler on Twitter at @tyler_riordan. 🚨 T-shirts are now available! Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring peo...

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0:00.0

They really love doing food delivery.

0:01.8

It's not a bad gig until something goes wrong.

0:04.4

Once you've had an accident, once you've been deactivated without reason, once a pandemic hits, that's when you start to not enjoy it. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us.

0:26.5

I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is Tyler Reordin.

0:30.2

Tyler is a PhD candidate in hospitality and anthropology at the University of Queensland.

0:35.8

And over the past year, he has been doing ethnographic research with

0:39.4

temporary migrant gig workers in Brisbane, Australia, and riding along with them as they, you know,

0:44.6

make their deliveries, wait for new jobs, and kind of just, you know, go about their day-to-day

0:49.7

activities. So Tyler and I talked about recent developments in Australia, but also talked about some of

0:56.1

the insights that he gained by doing that research, by spending time with those workers, and what the

1:01.5

future of the gig economy in Australia might look like. I think that there is an interesting

1:06.1

conversation here about migrants and, you know, migrants who work in the gig economy and what is going to

1:12.0

work for them necessarily versus, you know, some of the things that we often discuss around

1:16.5

employment rights and things like that. Especially when you think back to last week's episode with

1:21.8

Vina DuBal, where we talked about the large percentage of people of color and immigrants who work in the gig economy in the United

1:29.9

States and how that helps to kind of justify their exclusion from employment rights and their

1:35.3

earning of lower wages. And so, you know, obviously I support the fight for employment rights

1:40.6

for gig workers to improve the conditions of gig workers naturally. But I think that,

1:45.5

you know, part of what comes out in the conversation with Tyler is how we also need to consider,

1:50.5

you know, what the effects of those would be on some of these temporary migrant workers.

1:54.7

And even, you know, this will come up in a future conversation that I have as well. But what

1:59.7

that also means for, you know, undocumented

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