Hello there and welcome to the Midlife Gamer podcast. This is a very special episode and I'm speaking to you through the power of time travel because I'm currently on holiday sunning my ass up on a beach somewhere. But Matt's here. How are you Matt?

Very well. Okay. Good stuff. So listeners, we have, we've got a couple of very special interviews lined up for

you over our two week break. And this is the first one. And back at the end of May, around

bank holiday time, we were very fortunate to be able to travel to an industry legend's house.

And he was very nice. John Hare Hare who you may know from from sensible software

and he made us lovely coffee and he sat us down and we set all our gear up and we we chat to him

for a good couple of hours didn't we were there for a lot longer than we thought and he had

such interesting things to say to us and we were fortunate to be able to capture

all that audio and that's what you're going to be listening to now. So

there's nothing more to say but kick back, relax and

find out what happened when Midlife Gamer met

John Hare.

Never been so much fine. Never been so much by.

Oh, never been so much fine.

Oh, never been so much fun Never been so much fun

Okay, welcome everybody Today we are in Safran Walden, which is a beautiful part of the British Isles.

And we've made a very special journey and rightly so to meet one of the, probably for people our age, one of the most important people in the games industry.

And we are proud to be able to sit and have a good old chat with none other than John Hare.

Welcome, John. How are you?

I'm fine, thanks. Hi.

Brilliant, okay.

Well, we're going to break you in gently with a question that we ask all of our victims when we interview them,

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