Middle School Divorcee | It's Going to be OK with Elise Loehnen

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Feelings & Co.

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🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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We would never tell you that everything is going to be OK, but we will tell you that something will be. Today, Nora and guest Elise Loehnen share the things that make them feel like the world isn’t crumbling down around them. Watch us on YouTube here! Get this episode ad-free here! Listen to the Secret Audio album on Spotify or Apple! Elise’s lipstick LInk to Heads Carolina, Tails California on Spotify and Apple Check out Elise’s book! Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to Quince.com/TFA for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That's Quince.com/TFA to get free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince.com/TFA Shop my favorite bras and underwear at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select podcast in the survey and be sure to select our show in the dropdown menu that follows. Right now, our listeners get an additional 15% off any annual membership at MASTERCLASS.com/TFA. That’s 15% off at MASTERCLASS.com/TFA. With evening and weekend course options, Fordham’s online MSW lets you keep working while earning your degree, completing the program in as few as 16 months. Learn more and apply at fordham.edu/TFA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Now, are all the traitors present?
0:02.0	Let's get started, shall we?
0:04.0	From rags to riches.
0:06.0	I'm so sick of this.
0:07.0	Working like a dog and being treated worse.
0:09.0	Yorkshire to New York.
0:10.0	Poor climbers, you and me.
0:12.0	A life dedicated to revenge.
0:14.0	Let's make this an occasion to remember.
0:17.0	A Woman of Substance on Channel 4.
0:19.0	Stream now.
0:36.5	I'm Nora McInerney, and it's going to be okay.
0:55.0	And you'll notice I didn't say everything is going to be okay because I don't know that. I don't believe that in general. I think that we can all look around the world, especially these past few weeks and months, and say, no, those things will never be okay. And you know exactly what I'm talking about. But if you're joining us for the first time, you might want the origin story of this podcast, of this title of this podcast. I
1:01.9	stole it from my dead husband. Aaron died of brain cancer in 2014. He was a buoyant person. I was not. I have always just been a warrior, anxious about things. And when I was
1:16.3	worried, which again, I always was, Aaron would tell me it's going to be okay. And he said this when
1:22.0	I was worried about work, you know, banner ads. I worked in advertising. I was worried about banner ads. Guys,
1:29.3	I lost sleep over banner ads. He said that when I was anxious about the world. He said it was
1:37.6	going to be okay even when he was dying of brain cancer. And you know what? I never really
1:41.8	believed him. I thought, no, it actually won't be
1:45.2	okay. It will never be okay that you died at age 35. And I was right. And so was he. Because yes,
1:53.8	it is true that there are many things that will never be okay. And I also know that even when
1:59.6	everything seems like it is horrible, not every single thing is horrible.
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