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Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Middle-Out Messaging for the Midterms (with Melissa Morales and Bobby Clark)

Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Civic Ventures

Business, Government, News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Economics is another form of storytelling—specifically, it’s the story of who gets what and why. And as the rise of trickle-down and middle-out economics shows us, telling the right story at the right time can transform the economy for a generation. The same is true for politics, but simple and easy-to-understand narratives are notoriously not a strength of Democratic politicians. That’s what the folks at the Winning Jobs Narrative Project are trying to fix. On this must-listen episode before the midterm elections, Bobby Clark and Melissa Morales explain why messaging matters to voters. Bobby Clark is a Communications Strategist who advises philanthropic and progressive advocacy organizations on investments in communications research, structures, and campaigns. Bobby led the team that developed the Winning Jobs Narrative. Twitter: @bobbyprogress Melissa Morales is the Founder and President of Somos Votantes (C4) & Somos PAC (527), which are currently running multi-million dollar Latino-focused electoral programs in battleground states ahead of the 2022 midterm elections. Twitter: @Melissa_in_DC The Winning Jobs Narrative Project https://winningjobsnarrative.org Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com Twitter: @PitchforkEcon Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

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0:00.0

What the hell are Democrats doing wrong?

0:03.2

Voters are really aligned with Democrats around values and around the things that we all want.

0:07.0

I think where we become misaligned is really around messaging.

0:09.8

We've talked about this from the very first episode.

0:12.4

We have this emphasis on narrative and we've been focused so much on this podcast on economics,

0:17.8

but obviously the same thing goes for the politics.

0:21.3

With the same policies, the way we frame them makes a huge difference in how they're received.

0:25.6

They basically got the story wrong.

0:30.7

From the home offices of civic ventures in downtown Seattle,

0:35.8

this is Pitch Fork Economics, with Nick Hanauer, the best place to get the truth about who gets what and why.

0:48.9

Hey, I'm Zach Silk and I'm the president of Civic Ventures.

0:52.2

I'm David Goldstein, senior fellow at Civic Ventures.

1:00.9

I have been at this politics thing for almost 20 years now.

1:07.6

One of the things that I find most frustrating is that when it comes to economic issues,

1:13.7

voters overwhelmingly support democratic policies and when it comes to actual outcomes,

1:21.2

Democrats are overwhelmingly better for the economy across the board for working people,

1:28.4

for business people, for everybody.

1:30.4

The economy simply does better under democratic administrations than it does under Republican administrations.

1:37.9

And yet the majority of voters still trust Republicans over Democrats when it comes to running the economy.

1:47.4

Hey, Zach, you're a professional political apparatus, you're a campaign guy.

1:53.6

What the hell are Democrats doing wrong?

1:59.1

Well, Goldie, they basically got the story wrong.

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