Microsoft’s AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman on What He Really Thinks of AGI

WSJ Tech News Briefing

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🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Mustafa Suleyman is a key figure in the artificial intelligence world. He’s Microsoft AI CEO, with roots in Google’s DeepMind and Inflection AI. Suleyman recently joined WSJ columnists Christopher Mims and Tim Higgins on an episode of their Bold Names podcast. They discuss why AI assistants are central to Microsoft’s AI future, the company’s relationship with OpenAI, and what Suleyman really thinks about “artificial general intelligence.” Tech News Briefing brings you an encore of that episode. Listen and subscribe to Bold Names. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:33.7	Hey, TNB listeners. It's Friday, July 18th. I'm Patrick Coffey for the Wall Street Journal.
0:40.8	We cover artificial intelligence a lot. So we thought you might enjoy this in-depth conversation
0:46.5	from our sister podcast, Bold Names. Each week, WSJ columnists Tim Higgins and Christopher Mims
0:53.7	sit down with leaders of prominent companies
0:56.3	featured in the pages of the Wall Street Journal.
0:59.2	In a recent episode of bold names, they spoke with Mustafa Suleiman.
1:04.2	Soleiman is a key figure in the artificial intelligence world.
1:08.2	Currently, he's Microsoft AI CEO tasked with leading efforts on the company's
1:13.2	consumer AI products. Previously, he co-founded Google's Deep Mind and the startup Inflection
1:19.4	AI. They talked about why AI assistants are central to Microsoft's AI future, the company's
1:26.2	relationship with OpenA.I.
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