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Microbes Were Discovered in the 1600s. Why It Take 200 Years For Doctors To Start Washing Their Hands?

History Unplugged Podcast

History Unplugged

Society & Culture, History

4.23.7K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Scientists and enthusiastic amateurs first confirmed the existence of living things invisible to the human eye in the late sixteenth century. So why did it take two centuries to connect microbes to disease? As late as the Civil War in the 1860s, most soldiers who perished died not on the battlefield but of infected wounds, typhoid, and other diseases. Twenty years later, the outcome might have been different, following one of the most radical intellectual transformations in history: germ theory, the recognition that the tiniest forms of life have been humankind’s greatest killers. It was a discovery centuries in the making, and it transformed modern life and public health.

As today’s guest, Thomas Levenson (author of “So Very Small: How Humans Discovered the Microcosmos, Defeated Germs—and May Still Lose the War Against Infectious Disease”) reveals in this globe-spanning history, it has everything to do with how we see ourselves. For centuries, people in the West, believing themselves to hold dominion over nature, thought too much of humanity and too little of microbes to believe they could take us down. When nineteenth-century scientists finally made the connection, life-saving methods to control infections and contain outbreaks soon followed. The next big break came with the birth of the antibiotic era in the 1930s. And yet, less than a century later, the promise of the antibiotic revolution is already receding due to years of overuse. Is our self-confidence getting the better of us again?

So Very Small follows the thread of human ingenuity and hubris across centuries—along the way peering into microscopes, spelunking down sewers, visiting army hospitals, traipsing across sheep fields, and more—to show how we came to understand the microbial environment and how little we understand ourselves. Levenson traces how and why ideas are pursued, accepted, or ignored—and hence how human habits of mind can, so often, make it terribly hard to ask the right questions.

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0:00.0

It's got here with another episode of the History on Plug podcast.

0:07.3

Scientists and enthusiastic amateurs first confirmed the existence of living things invisible

0:12.6

to the human eye in the late 16th century.

0:15.4

They called them animal molecules.

0:17.1

So why did it take two centuries to connect microbes to disease? As late as the Civil War in the 1860s, most soldiers who perish died not on the battlefield,

0:25.0

but of infected wounds, typhoid, and other diseases.

0:28.0

This was until people like Florence Nightingale came along and proved that meticulous sanitation

0:32.2

could cut down on soldier mortality in a hospital from 40% to 2%.

0:36.3

This came about as a result of one of the most

0:38.5

radical intellectual transformations in history, germ theory, recognition that the tiniest forms

0:43.6

of life have been humanity's greatest killers. It was a discovery centuries in the making

0:47.4

and a transformed modern life in public health. So again, why did it take centuries to put the pieces

0:52.4

together and for people to finally have that eureka moment? To explore this question, as today's guest, Thomas Levinson, author of

0:58.5

So Very Small, how humans discovered the microcosmos, defeated germs, and may still lose a war

1:03.1

against infectious disease. We look at how a Dutch amateur enthusiast confirmed amino molecules

1:07.9

in the 1670s by looking at pond water, the early use of vaccinations

1:11.2

by Cotton Mather in 1721, how dairy maids conquered smallpox in the 1790s, thanks to the

1:17.0

investigations of Edward Jenner and jumping to Florence Nightingale, how contemporaries stopped

1:21.1

a cholera outbreak by identifying a contaminated water pump in London in the 1850s, and how

1:25.8

deploying antibiotics during World War II prevented soldiers

1:28.5

from contracting STDs. There's a lot to cover here, and I hope you enjoyed this discussion with

1:32.5

Thomas Levinson. And one more thing before we get started with this episode, a quick break for

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