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I think I'm a monkey. I think somewhere I sort of look like a linguisticity or something, but it's more about that I know how to go to one branch and then sort of hacking, I go to another one, but I always

stay in my tree. Oh, I see. So you're very busy, but you're in your own. Lamy well.

You're Lamy land. Yeah, yeah. I'm Carol Horton, the voice of jewelry. Welcome to If Jewels could talk. I'm an authoroulton, the voice of jewellery.

Welcome to If Jewels Could Talk.

I'm an author and broadcaster and the woman who initiated the role of jewelry editor at magazines like Tatler and Vogue.

This is a podcast for everyone, for people who do like jewelry, for people who don't realize they like jewelry, and anyone intrigued by fascinating facts, new ideas and forgotten histories.

So join me as I tell sparkly tales and meet all sorts of people delving into four centuries

of jewelry culture and investigate what's happening now.

Music culture and investigate what's happening now. I am here in Paris with Michelle Lammy.

Now, actually, she's one of the most difficult people to describe that I've actually

ever had on the podcast.

Oh, why?

Because you've done so much and so many diverse things.

I mean, artists, entrepreneur, producer, collaborator, performer.

You co-founded a nightclub in Los Angeles where you met your husband, business partner, co-conspirator.

No, it's not there.

You know, I had the clothing company.

Okay.

Before and before Cavalde's Artists at Lede de Café.

And I hire a record as a pattern maker.

You hired him. I didn't know that.

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