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or insult your fandom with brainless hot takes?

Well, hi. I'm Dan Hansis. And I'm Mark Sestler. Oh, hi, Mark. And we're the host of Heed the Call, the NFL podcast you've been waiting your whole life for. Head the Call covers every game, every storyline, everything that matters, and we do it all with a touch of mirth. Football is fun. Why shouldn't your football podcast be the same? Follow and listen to Heed the Call NFL podcast wherever you get your podcast. We do have other mailback questions. Let me hit these quick for us, all right? Yeah, you got it. Sorry if I was long-winded there. You're good. Based on the number of emails we get, look, we know the show originates in Michigan. We know a lot of people have been listening for a while. They have thoughts on MSU, specifically they want to hear

you talk about them. So I got no issue with it. Can I bring up Michigan while we're doing this?

Yeah. Look, the game, the game ended up the way I thought it would end up. That's why I had USC

minus two and a half. What I didn't intend on was USC seven string running back who moonlights as an Uber driver bodying that defense. Now, here's my thing, Jim. We've now seen them play two real teams. And they've gotten dummy both times. I thought USC, if they didn't have two brain dead red zone turnovers, could have gotten the 40s. And we know Oklahoma left a ton of points on the field. That should have been 383. Can I now, without taking slander or scorer, can I just say they're not a playoff team and be left alone, please? Yeah, you can say that. I think people would agree. I mean, even Michigan fans, I mean, John Jansen played on the 97 team does mornings with me.

He didn't fight the idea that they're not a playoff team. He watched that game up close and personal. His ass got flown out to the West Coast to watch it up close. And we got to say, and again, Bryce is going to be fine. I think the kids got a hell of a nice future. It's not ready. No. Everything's a fastball.

It is. There's no touch. He'll get there. He's not there now. And this season's not going to end in a playoffs. The other thing is I hope you're enjoying the Wink Martindale experience. I told you this is what it would look like in big games against, you know, where you don't get to bully people. Wink can only coach football on a phone booth. He can't play the modern game.

That's the thing that surprised me.

Okay, it wasn't that Michigan... people. Wink can only coach football on a phone booth. He can't play the modern game.

That's the thing that surprised me. Okay, it wasn't that Michigan had to win. I guaranteed they

would win. I thought Michigan would be able to run the ball on USC. And I didn't think USC would

bully Michigan. I mean, that's a red flag. That's 225 yards allowed on the ground. So, Mike,

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