I felt like, you know, why haven't I read anything about this or like why haven't I heard about like what this is like?

No one's told me. I didn't know what like rigor mortis was, you know, like and that was horrifying.

Like and so I felt like I needed to write about these things in some ways to like warn people.

This is Death, Sex and Money.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

I need to talk about more. I'm Anna Sear.

Michelle Zonner is a rock star and a best-selling writer.

You hear that when she talks.

She's both dispassionately cool and cutting with her words.

Like the day before we spoke, she tweeted something that caught my eye.

She wrote, the most Korean thing about me is that all my joy is rooted in vengeance.

I was thinking about like the small things that bring me great joy and like how they're really rooted in this kind of like full circle of vengeance.

And that's like a really Korean thing. There's like a whole emotion that like a lot of people have talked about called Han in Korean culture.

That's basically like this like Koreans like have so much trauma from like being invaded and like a series of wars and being occupied.

That there's always this feeling that you're being slided.

And a lot of like people of my parents generation don't believe that younger generations have Han.

Like that that's something that's been phased out. But a lot of people in my generation still believes that that's like a real Korean quality in a way.

Like what made you those words come to you and think I'm going to type these out into my phone and send them out into the world.

The thing that that was specifically about was we recently played Jimmy Fallon.

And I wrote this song a few years ago called Jimmy Fallon big.

And it was about my bass player of my old band, a little big league. He like sat me down at my kitchen table.

And was like I really love little big league. But this other band has invited me to play as their touring bass player.

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