Michelle Obama on Presidential Pressure, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese & Michael Jordan Stories

All The Smoke

The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts

Basketball, Society & Culture, Sports

4.8 • 7.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Former First Lady Michelle Obama and her brother, former college basketball coach Craig Robinson, sit down with Matt and Stak for a rare, unfiltered conversation. From growing up on the South Side of Chicago to navigating life on the biggest stage in the world, the siblings share how family, values, and hoops shaped their journey. Michelle shares powerful stories about the moments that defined her, the challenges that tested her, and the people who inspired her along the way. Craig offers his perspective as both her brother and a leader in the game, sharing personal memories and unforgettable moments—including one with Michael Jordan. This is All The Smoke at its finest: authentic, inspiring, and filled with stories you won’t hear anywhere else.

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0:00.0	This is an IHeart podcast. Welcome back to All the Smoke.
0:29.7	We got a very special episode.
0:32.1	Jack, last time we were in D.C.,
0:33.7	we got a chance to sit down with the former vice president, Kamala Harris.
1:01.6	Now we're back in D.C. Yep. And we got some very special guests. It gets better and better. We got a chance to sit down with Craig Robinson on Unplugged. Man, was that about a year ago? Yeah. And he brought his little sister today. I did. You did. Crazy. Who his little sister is, though. Yeah. Welcome to the show, Miss Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson. Thanks for having us. Thank you for having us. Another legendary episode. So we did a crossover for our fans. We got a chance to sit down on their show yesterday and had an amazing outside of our normal scope type of conversation. So you guys make sure you guys check that out. We'll let you know when that's dropping. And then to now today they paid the favor back and it's all the smoke time. Yeah. We're on your territory. Yes. Indeed. We already had a violator, but we got to keep a PG crystal said so we can't talk about that. But Jack, let's get it going. What we got? Let's start with a boxing question.
1:29.3	Ooh. We already had a violator, but we got to keep a PG, Crystal said, so we can't talk about that. But Jack, let's get going. Let's start with a boxing question.
1:31.3	Ooh, boxing.
1:32.3	Okay.
1:33.3	We heard back in the day that y'all had a couple squabbles.
1:36.3	Ah.
1:37.3	Yeah.
1:38.3	Yeah, we did.
1:39.3	Okay, so who was most on top?
1:40.3	She always got to win the fights.
1:42.3	Did she?
1:43.3	She always got to win the fights. So the backstory is, everyone, that my dad
1:49.7	was a boxer. Not professionally, but he boxed in high school and boxed in the army. And he
1:56.6	bought us boxing gloves. Well, I should say Santa Claus got us boxing gloves for Christmas one year. Make that clear. That was daddy. Yeah. We're dead. We just crushing dreams here. Yeah, don't do that, Jack. I got two kids that could be doing Santa Claus. No way. I blame you for that. Action six. What do you mean? He's supposed to believe in Santa Claus. Too much time to pass. You tell you a kid a white man coming down yesterday. Ah, here you go that. Actually, six. What do you mean? He's supposed to believe in Santa Claus. Too much time to pass.
2:18.3	You can tell you a kid a white man coming down. You work too hard. Ashley, give my credit to a nuts. Come on. We don't want him to be comfortable with that. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. Not in my house. So my dad taught us how to box. and we used to practice with each other,
2:16.7	but I was always practicing on defense.
2:19.0	He didn't want me. So my dad taught us how to box. And we used to practice with each other, but I was always practicing on defense.
2:37.8	He didn't want me to hit her.
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