We live in a time where people feel like they have to be perfect to be respected, to be loved,

to feel like they're enough.

But today's guest has always reminded us that becoming isn't about arriving.

It's about evolving.

And knowing your light can't be dimmed when you know who you are.

Now listen, she's not just our former first lady. She's someone so many of us

feel like we know, someone we've grown up with, learned from, and been comforted by. A true

role model, groundbreaking in every sense, but still honest, still someone who makes you feel seen,

especially black women, and really anyone trying to find their way.

Michelle Obama is in a new chapter, defining life on her own terms.

From her podcast, IMO, to her latest book, The Look.

She's getting real about identity, style, and what it takes to continue becoming and return to yourself.

So, how does it feel to embrace this next chapter?

And how has she stayed rooted in who she is through every version of her life?

We have so much to get into.

Because baby, this is Giki Palmer.

No matter what we're doing in the car, just chilling, popo, Amazon music, sit back and listen.

Life, love, sex, science, covering it all.

Especially the bad because money always involved.

No matter what it is, we're going to make it make sense.

Nothing else will do but kick it with the homies and key.

So grab you a drink and a snack you enjoy

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