From Wundery, I'm Matt Ford and I'm Alice Levine.

And this is British scandal. Now because of the arrest of an anonymous person related to the National Crime Agency

investigation into PPE Med Pro, we're not able to actually do our scheduled interview.

So instead we're bringing you a fascinating chat with someone who helps us in these kinds of sticky situations.

We call her red tape Claire. She is the person who tells us what we can't say, what we can say, and where to reword our scripts.

She stops us from getting sued basically.

Claire Hoban is a content lawyer with 20 years experience working across television, film, audio and print.

She's worked on shows that Have I Got News for You, Mock the Week, and even Breaking News.

She joins us next.

Claire, you've been content lawyer on so many series of British scandal including the

latest one on Michelle Monne. So just explain to us what does a content lawyer actually do?

So an editorial content lawyer is somebody that basically looks at content

before it goes out whether that's a film or a television program or a podcast or a radio show,

and they'll just look at everything in the editorial and try and work out what are your risks, could you get sued on any of this and advise you on the

content and they might help you to amend scripts or to if it's if it needs an edit

they'll advise you how to do that and you can work in all sorts of realms you know you can work on

breaking news or live programs right through to programs that have a really long production period that

might take months or even years to make.

Do you have a proverbial red pen then?

Are you the person that's sort of scribbling red ink over everything?

Well, you know, I think there's this kind of preconception that

isn't true a misconception I should say there's a misconception about somebody like

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