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This is a global player original podcast. I can't see what we've done wrong. Doug and the consortium

have simply delivered a contract, a delivery contract of goods.

But after everything, you can't see what you've done wrong.

When you've admitted today that you lied to the press and by extension you lied to the public.

Laura, saying to the press, I'm not involved to protect my family.

Can I just make this clear?

It's not a crime.

That was Michelle Mohn, Baroness Mown, saying it's perfectly all right to lie willy-nilly to the press and to conceal your involvement in contracts that have made you millions of pounds

because you had access to ministers that would pick up your call

and deliver contracts worth 200 million pounds to you. Think there of some people might think

there are still questions to be answered. She says it's not a crime and today we're going to

hear from a lawyer who thinks it probably should be. The whole question of defamation, the whole question

of threatening journalists who are trying to tell the truth needs to be revisited. We're going

to be asking what should happen to Michelle Mone now, what should happen to those missing millions,

whether the defamation law needs to change, and what the questions are

for the government right now. Michelle Mone says they knew all along. Welcome to the news agents.

The newsagents. It's John. It's Emily. And we're going to start by reminding you what all this was about.

And how urgent everything felt right in the middle of the COVID pandemic.

When yes, the government was desperate to find enough protective equipment.

Yes, it wanted to reach places it had never gone before to make sure that it had the right

equipment in place to help our doctors, to help our nurses, protect themselves when they

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