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Hello, I'm Katie Piper and welcome to my podcast, Katie Piper's Extraordinary People.

Each episode, I'll meet an amazing person with an incredible story who faced adversity and came through the other side to inspire others.

Today, I'm joined by a body confidence coach, award-winning body positive activist and author.

It is Michelle Elman.

Now, I was going to start by saying, I'm joined by an old friend today, but I'm not, because

this is like the second time I've met her and probably the first time I've properly met her.

But that is what social media does for you.

And not just social media, but when you relate to somebody that you've never met

and you read up on them and they help you with your own thought process,

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