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Michele Gelfand on Rule Makers, Rule Breakers

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🗓️ 28 October 2019

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Psychologist Michele Gelfand talks about her book, Rule Makers, Rule Breakers, with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Gelfand distinguishes between loose cultures and tight cultures--the degree to which culture and regulation restrict behavior or leave it alone. Gelfand explores the causes of why some cultures are tighter than others and the challenges societies face when culture is too tight or too loose. She also applies these ideas of cultural tightness and looseness to corporate mergers and family life.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.

0:07.8

I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

0:12.7

Our website is econtalk.org where you can subscribe, comment on this podcast, and find

0:17.6

links and other information related to today's conversation.

0:20.6

We'll also find our archives where you can listen to every episode we've ever done going

0:24.9

back to 2006.

0:27.1

Our email address is mailadycontalk.org.

0:29.6

We'd love to hear from you.

0:33.7

Today is September 5, 2019.

0:35.5

I'm a guestist, psychologist and author, Michelle Gelfand, distinguished university professor

0:40.9

at the University of Maryland.

0:42.2

Her research interests include cultural norms, negotiation, conflict, revenge, forgiveness,

0:47.8

and diversity.

0:48.8

She is the author of Rulemakers, Rule Breakers, How Tight and Lose Cultures, Wired the World,

0:54.8

which is our topic for today.

0:56.4

Michelle, welcome to Econ Talk.

0:57.8

Thanks for having me.

0:59.6

What's start by talking as you do in the book about the diversity of cultures and norms,

1:03.6

how we dress, behave differently in different contexts, and the expectations we have of each

1:08.3

other's behavior and how important that is.

1:12.6

So I'm a cross-cultural psychologist, and I'm interested in a culture because it's such

1:17.6

a puzzle.

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