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Guys, I'm so excited about this interview.

Honestly, it's been, it's been crazy getting this interview started.

So I feel like this is something that probably really needs to be heard.

Maybe the devil is messing around here.

But I'm looking forward to speaking with former Congresswoman, former Tea Party star,

former presidential candidate, and now the dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University.

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