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Thoughts on the Market

Michael Zezas: What’s Next on U.S.-China Trade?

Thoughts on the Market

Morgan Stanley

Strategy, Alternatives, Macro, Equities, Fixed Income, Investing, Global, Business, Markets, Economics

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2020

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Summary

On today's episode, As a Phase One trade deal nears completion, can investors worry less about the risks of tariff escalations? Not so fast, says head of U.S. public policy Michael Zezas.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Thoughts on the market. I'm Michael Zezes, head a public policy and municipal strategy for Morgan Stanley.

0:08.0

Along with my colleagues bring you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about the intersection between US public policy

0:13.6

and financial markets. It's Wednesday, January 8th at 9 AM Easter. We start this year as

0:18.6

we ended the last, trying to put US trade policy into perspective for investors.

0:23.1

The president recently stated that he'd sign a phase one deal on January 15th and start work on a phase two

0:28.3

immediately.

0:29.3

So is that the end of the story?

0:31.1

Can investors stop worrying about tariff escalations pressuring markets?

0:34.0

Given all the twists and turns in this negotiation so far, we wouldn't get too comfortable.

0:38.3

First, we're looking to the content of the deal itself, which media reports suggest might not be available until after a deal is signed and may never be fully available.

0:47.0

For example, if the deal focuses more on the idea of best efforts instead of hard targets when it comes to reaching goals about purchases of U.S. products

0:54.5

and intellectual property protections, that could be caused for concern.

0:58.1

It would mean there's plenty of room for misinterpretation on both sides and ultimately a renewal of tariff tensions.

1:03.7

Second, we're looking at the onset of phase two negotiations.

1:07.2

Normally, one would think fresh negotiations are a good sign.

1:10.5

Communication is key to resolving all manner of conflict.

1:13.6

But in our view, phase two negotiations introduce some risks to the trade piece that's been achieved.

1:18.3

That's because phase one address the low-hanging fruit in the negotiations, while phase two addresses issues where both sides are far apart like

1:24.8

industrial policy.

1:26.2

So, strangely enough, we'd view a delay in negotiations positively, at least in the short term,

1:31.2

as the last phase one an opportunity to work and build benefits

1:34.0

to both sides, making it more costly to re-escalate tensions amidst what's likely to be a tough

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