Michael Zezas: U.S.-China Trade: What Happens in 2020?
Thoughts on the Market
Morgan Stanley
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 11 December 2019
⏱️ 2 minutes
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On today's episode, Although some reports have suggested progress on a phase one deal, markets are still seeking a clear signal forward on trade—and that means tackling the more difficult phase two deal.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Michael Zezes, Head Public Policy and Municipal Strategy for Morgan Stanley. |
| 0:08.0 | Along with my colleagues bring you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about the intersection between U.S. public policy and financial markets. |
| 0:14.4 | It's Wednesday, December 11th at 9 a.m. Eastern. |
| 0:16.7 | On December 15th, this coming Monday, the U.S. is scheduled to levy tariffs on the remaining |
| 0:21.6 | imports from China that so far have not been caught up in the trade dispute. |
| 0:25.0 | Reports that these tariffs may be delayed may seem a reprieve for investors, but there's two things we think investors need to know as they track this tariff event. |
| 0:33.2 | First, what's at stake if these tariffs do eventually go on? |
| 0:36.4 | According to our economists, another round of tariffs, if sustained, would be consistent |
| 0:40.8 | with a recession, albeit a shallow one, starting in the second quarter of next year |
| 0:44.9 | as falling corporate confidence could finally spill over into weaker demand for labor. |
| 0:48.8 | But while an eventual deal to avoid these tariffs and a recession |
| 0:52.1 | would be an obvious positive for the economy in the short term, |
| 0:54.8 | we don't think it's likely to send a clear signal to markets that trade tensions are over. |
| 0:58.8 | That brings us to our second point. |
| 1:00.5 | Two months ago, the US and China announced that they had come to a phase one deal. |
| 1:04.0 | Since then, the news has been mixed on whether or not the deal could be finalized. |
| 1:08.0 | Issues in dispute appear to be tariff concessions, the level of agricultural purchases by China, and how a deal can be enforced. |
| 1:15.2 | A delay of December 15th tariffs underscores the lack of progress on these points. |
| 1:19.5 | And it's a pretty long list of items with all the hard stuff to be saved for a future phase 2. |
| 1:24.2 | So the path to a deal is likely a narrow one, and the key takeaway for us is that any deal is likely |
| 1:29.1 | to keep current tariffs in place as more difficult phase two negotiations can stall. |
| 1:33.3 | This keeps the risk of re-escalation of tariffs in 2020. |
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