Michael Zezas: U.S.-China Trade and “The Prisoner’s Dilemma”
Thoughts on the Market
Morgan Stanley
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 29 May 2019
⏱️ 2 minutes
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On today’s episode, Head of U.S. Public Policy Michael Zezas explains why a key principle of game theory could help investors navigate markets amid rising trade tensions.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Thoughts on the market. I'm Michael Zesis, head of Public Policy and Municipal Strategy for Morgan Stanley. |
| 0:09.0 | Along with my colleagues bringing you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about the intersection between U.S. public policy and financial markets. |
| 0:15.4 | We're recording this on Tuesday, May 28th at 11 a.m. Eastern. |
| 0:19.2 | President Trump's just completed trip to Japan and the recent announced delay in EU auto tariffs |
| 0:24.3 | are examples of lessen trade tensions. |
| 0:26.3 | So why are investors still so concerned with US trade policy? |
| 0:29.4 | Because escalation with China is approaching a critical point. |
| 0:32.8 | If you ever study game theory, you might remember something called the Prisoner's |
| 0:36.0 | Dilemma. |
| 0:37.0 | Applied to the U.S. and China on trade, it means that compromising leaves both sides better |
| 0:40.9 | off, but it also means both sides perceive greater benefits for escalating |
| 0:45.1 | than to risk making an agreement on the others' terms. |
| 0:48.1 | That's what seems to be happening right now is the US and China, since May 5th, have outlined |
| 0:52.1 | key remaining differences on issues of |
| 0:54.0 | intellectual property, enforcement, and how quickly existing tariffs can be |
| 0:58.0 | removed. The benefits of cooperation only become easier to realize once the |
| 1:01.9 | downsides become apparent either through weaker economic data or falling markets. |
| 1:06.2 | And that's what should happen over time, especially if the next round of tariffs comes into play next month. |
| 1:10.8 | Those tariffs, on the remaining 300 billion or so of U.S. imports from China |
| 1:15.0 | largely fall on finished consumer goods. So the impact of prices, consumer behavior, and the broader economy should be more apparent than in previous rounds. |
| 1:23.0 | So that drives a key rule of thumb for investors. |
| 1:25.4 | You should act as if the next escalation will happen until markets price it in. |
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