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Thoughts on the Market

Michael Zezas: The Key Variable in U.S.-China Trade Talks

Thoughts on the Market

Morgan Stanley

Strategy, Alternatives, Macro, Equities, Fixed Income, Investing, Global, Business, Markets, Economics

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2019

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Summary

On today's episode, Head of U.S. Public Policy Michael Zezas says when it comes to trade, movement toward a meaningful compromise will likely come down to one fundamental variable.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Michael Zezes, head of Public Policy and Municipal Strategy for Morgan Stanley.

0:09.0

Along with my colleagues bringing you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about the intersection between U.S. public policy and financial markets.

0:15.0

It's Wednesday, October 9th at 9 a.m. Eastern.

0:18.0

As we previewed in our last podcast, this is a big week for the US-China trade negotiations.

0:23.2

Negotiators meet this week and markets are hopeful for some type of breakthrough that could lead

0:27.1

to what we call a durable pause.

0:29.4

That's an agreement that would credibly keep both sides from further escalation for a long period.

0:33.8

In our view, that's important to interrupting the cycle of sagging corporate confidence,

0:37.3

falling capital spending, and labor weakness that our economists think is in motion.

0:41.5

Listeners are likely well aware of our skepticism about this possibility,

0:45.2

so let's focus on what might make us think differently and what would suggest a more durable

0:49.1

pause and a more bullish path for risk assets is in the cards.

0:52.7

The most important variable is not whether a pause in tariffs is announced.

0:56.4

Rather, it's whether or not the pause is accompanied by a rollback and the tariffs put in place

1:00.3

this past September.

1:01.7

That could be sufficient to suggest a meaningful

1:03.6

compromise have been made by one side or the other. We've been thinking that this is

1:07.1

unlikely because the incentives for either side to compromise have not been

1:10.6

sufficiently boosted by either economic weakness,

1:13.2

market weakness, or political risk.

1:15.4

Said more simply, we don't think there's been enough of any of those to cause either

1:19.1

side to soften its demands.

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