Michael Zezas: Oil Exporter Tensions Add to Market Worries
Thoughts on the Market
Morgan Stanley
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🗓️ 11 March 2020
⏱️ 2 minutes
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Summary
The dual challenges of the coronavirus and the collapse of the OPEC plus arrangement intensifies the need for a fiscal response from Washington. Head of Public Policy Research Michael Zezas explains.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Michael Zizas, head of Public Policy Research and Municipal Strategy for Morgan Stanley. |
| 0:09.0 | Along with my colleagues bring you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about the intersection between U.S. public policy and |
| 0:14.1 | financial markets. |
| 0:15.4 | It's Wednesday, March 11th, and 11 a.m. Eastern. |
| 0:18.5 | To say markets have become volatile would be an understatement. |
| 0:21.5 | Adding to the virus concerns now is the collapse of the OPEC-plus arrangement over the weekend, |
| 0:26.0 | which touched off a ramp-up in oil production in the nearly 30% decline in the price of oil. |
| 0:30.9 | While lower prices at the gas pump might seem good news, this time around |
| 0:34.2 | our economists aren't seeing it this way. First, the US has become in recent years |
| 0:38.3 | a net energy exporter so lower prices can actually hurt the broad economy. |
| 0:42.4 | Second, with virus concerns forcing more so lower prices can actually hurt the broad economy. |
| 0:42.8 | Second, with virus concerns forcing more people to limit travel, |
| 0:46.0 | there's less reason for people to spend that savings from the pump, |
| 0:48.9 | at least in the short term. |
| 0:50.3 | The intersection between these events and financial markets are everywhere, but let me give you an example from the market I follow most closely, Munis. |
| 0:57.0 | Oil has become an important part of the economy for many states, like Texas, Louisiana, Alaska, Colorado, and Oklahoma. |
| 1:04.6 | A fall in oil prices puts drilling activity and employment at risk. |
| 1:08.6 | Further, many states tax oil extraction, so it's reasonable to expect some budget gaps will open up, and some austerity might follow, which in turn drags on the economy. |
| 1:17.5 | Fortunately for the muni market, most of this risk is concentrated in high-grade securities, |
| 1:22.3 | and it doesn't make up a substantial part of the market. |
| 1:24.8 | And while we think mid and lower-rated munis are set to underperformed further, |
| 1:28.5 | we think the spread between higher-rated munis and treasuries has mostly priced this risk in. But that story is more exception than rule from the oil prices might be better served by a fiscal response rather than a monetary one from the Fed. |
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