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Thoughts on the Market

Michael Zezas: Indirect Impacts

Thoughts on the Market

Morgan Stanley

Strategy, Alternatives, Macro, Equities, Fixed Income, Investing, Global, Business, Markets, Economics

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2019

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Summary

In today’s podcast, Head of U.S. Public Policy strategy Michael Zezas discusses how the great debate playing out in markets around trade is about more than direct impacts.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Thoughts on the Market.

0:04.0

I'm Michael Zezes, head of Public Policy and Municipal Strategy for Morgan Stanley.

0:08.0

Along with my colleagues bring you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about the intersection between U.S. public policy and

0:13.4

financial markets. It's Wednesday, June 26th at 9 a.m. Easter. One of the things I

0:17.9

find fascinating about financial markets is that every trade represents a

0:21.6

disagreement.

0:22.5

The buyer of a stock is arguing they expect the price to go higher.

0:25.7

The seller is expressing the opposite view.

0:28.0

Disagreement and debate is what makes markets.

0:30.4

And these disagreements are repeated countless times throughout the day with each trade, across asset classes and across the globe, painting a picture of the world's expectations on nearly every topic affecting humanity.

0:41.0

So to be an investor is to pick aside in the key market debates of the day.

0:45.0

It's unavoidable as even the act of staying out of the markets when you have the ability to invest is

0:49.6

implicitly expressing a view of the world.

0:52.1

So what's the essential market debate today?

0:54.0

In our view, it's about how the economy reacts to US-China trade tensions.

0:58.0

In one camp, there are plenty of investors that argue that trade escalation sound a lot scarier than they actually are.

1:04.4

For example, levying 25% tariffs on 300 billion dollars of imports from China amounts to only

1:09.6

$75 billion of impact on a $20 trillion U.S. economy that just posted GDP growth above 3%.

1:17.0

Additionally, the Fed's recent comments state that they stand at the ready to ease if need be,

1:21.7

and that might be more powerful than $75 billion of new tariff costs.

1:26.1

Sounds compelling, but we're in the other camp.

1:28.4

It's true that the direct costs of new tariffs are relatively small, and we're not arguing

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