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Hey there, folks.

Welcome to the program. My guest right now is my friend Mike Wilkerson, not related to David Wilkerson.

Mike Wilkerson is the author of Puritans, Pilgrims, and Prophets, Why America Matters, the case for a new exceptionalism, and other books. But of course this week, everything

has to start with the subject of the recent murder of my friend Charlie Kirk. And Mike

Wilkerson has written about that. Mike, welcome back.

Thank you very much, Eric.

It's good to be with you, but it is a sad day and a sad week indeed.

Yeah, it's incomprehensible stuff.

But God has a plan, and I've talked about that a lot.

I don't need to talk more about it.

You wrote an article at stormwall.com. People can find you at stormwall.com.

So what are your top-of-mind thoughts on where we are in the nation?

Well, I was terribly distressed and terribly sad, Eric. I think that we've, you know, I've been on your show a number of times.

We've talked about a number of things.

When we got together a year ago, or just over a year ago,

we were forced to talk about the attempted assassination of the now president of the United States, Donald J. Trump,

we warned about what this meant, that as terrible as it was, that it was symbolic of something

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