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The Chris Cuomo Project

Michael Shellenberger, Left, Right & Reasonable

The Chris Cuomo Project

Chris Cuomo

News, News Commentary, Politics, Government

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2022

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode of The Chris Cuomo Project, Chris explores how Americans should be their best during the worst of times, like Hurricane Ian, but how the political game causes complex situations to be reduced to single-factor explanations. Michael Shellenberger, author and founder of Environmental Progress, joins Chris for an extensive conversation about his book “San Fransicko” and the cultural stigma behind treatments for addiction and mental health, misconceptions about the potential and safety of nuclear power, and much more. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday.

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0:00.0

Are we making a huge mistake and I am driving around being fascinated by windmills that are really such a

0:07.7

small-scale solution compared to what nuclear could be or am I just drinking a coulade?

0:13.0

No, I mean we're making a huge mistake, it's an extremely serious issue.

0:33.2

Welcome to the Chris Cuomo project, guess who I am. Thank you so much for joining,

0:38.0

subscribing, following, spreading the word, the growth is great and organic because this is all

0:43.8

about you. Free agents, it's why we're the tight tea, open mind, open heart, willing to listen.

0:50.1

Not last, not right, reasonable, reasonable. What happened to that? It's such a radical idea not

0:56.3

to be part of the game. No, it's about regular people, regular has become radical because the

1:03.5

radical is getting all the relevance. That's the problem with social media and that's what we're

1:08.9

trying to cut through exposing the game and I appreciate you doing that, I appreciate you spreading

1:14.1

the word, buy in the merch so that we can give back to worthy causes together. Now, two examples

1:21.8

of the game that must be examined by us, right? First one, Hurricane Ian. We are at our best

1:30.1

during the worst times. I've seen it again and again and again and Hurricane Ian will be an

1:36.8

example of that on so many levels. You'll see people flooding in there and up on intended to help

1:41.6

those who have been flooded, who are hurt, who need. You're asking me already about how you can

1:47.6

get involved. That's us at our best, okay? However, as was also what was heartbreaking about the pandemic,

1:56.0

is that in a crisis, we were fighting one another. It was really depressing on a lot of levels. It's

2:01.6

the first time I've ever seen that where in a hard time for everybody, we decided to not help one

2:07.2

another. That was something to think about, very unsettling. Now we're seeing it a little bit on

2:12.7

the periphery with Hurricane Ian. How? The right. Instead of just talking about Florida,

2:18.9

right? Breaking their own rule about don't talk about why a crisis is happening politically in the

2:23.9

moment of crisis, which I reject. They start saying, listen to these mainstream media and lefty

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