From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

Actor Michael Shannon wants to make sense of the times we live in.

His first, and he says maybe his last, outing as a director, is Eric Leroux,

which explores the aftermath of a school shooting, primarily through the eyes of the shooter's mother.

I have always heard over the years that it's our job to hold up a mirror to society or something,

which I've heard time and time again, yet I feel like it happens so infrequently.

So that's kind of what I was attempting to do by making this movie.

Michael Shannon tells us how the Eric Leroux producers managed to pack up and relocate

from Little Rock to North Carolina after Arkansas enacted a strict abortion ban.

Shannon also admits that despite the film's dark subject matter, he found making it surprisingly

fun.

Plus, we get a taste of his REM cover band, which just wrapped a nationwide tour. But first

we banter. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW. I am joined by my partner in banter,

Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt. Hi there. Well, I don't quite know how to do this, because as I speak,

the market has been going up and down like a yo-yo and there are tariffs on and tariffs off.

And the world seems very confusing and confused. But in terms of this industry, well, I don't even know what to say there.

Because if tariffs are in place, that will clearly have a negative impact on this industry, but are they?

Well, at this point, I think we have to assume some kind of tariff will happen. I mean, even in the 90-day

pause that Trump announced, there is still, there was an increase on tariffs to China. And the

Chinese government is talking about potentially banning Hollywood movies, which, you know,

that's one of the potential impacts here. I don't think that that would be as big of a deal today

as it might have been, say, 10 years ago, where a major studio movie could expect to earn

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