So your consciousness is actually the most precious thing you own yet. Most of us are essentially

letting it be sold to the highest bidder, according to my guest today, Michael Pollan. Between the

constant pings on our phones and the noise of the world, we've ended up in this place where we're

less aware and less present than we've ever been before. It feels a bit like our minds are under siege.

So today, we're going deep into what it actually means to even be conscious and how we can

start to reclaim that space. Michael Pollan is someone who needs a little introduction,

widely acclaimed multi-time New York Times best-selling author, his latest work, A World Appears,

a journey into consciousness.

It might be his most personal and mysterious yet.

We talk about everything from the strange four-second gap in our thinking

to intelligent behavior of plants that don't even have brains.

It's a conversation that truly challenged a lot of my own

assumptions about who is actually, quote, running the show in my own head. So excited to share

this conversation with you. I'm Jonathan Fields, and this is Good Life Project. You know, it's really good to be back in conversation with you.

Last time we were together to talk, it was in the context of your deep dive into the world of psychedelics.

And I think that opened a lot of people's minds and hearts.

It was, came out at a moment where so much has changed, but also a lot has stayed the same.

And now you've gone deep into the idea of consciousness.

So as I sit here, you know, we can have this esoteric conversation about consciousness, a philosophical

debate about consciousness. But I'm thinking of our, somebody in our community who's, you know,

who just kind of says to themselves, like, I'm in the middle years of my life. There's a lot

going on in the world, a lot going on in my life. Why should I care about a conversation

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