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The One You Feed

Michael Pollan on the New Science of Psychedelics and Consciousness

The One You Feed

Eric Zimmer

Education, Self-improvement, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness, Buddhism, Mental Health

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2018

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Michael Pollan is a writer whose books have topped the New York Times bestseller list time and time again. He teaches writing at Harvard and The University of California Berkley. In 2010, Time magazine name Michael Pollan one of the most influential people in the world. His books and essays have historically focused on our interaction with nature and this new book takes that theme to a whole other level. Its title gives you a great idea of what it's about: How to Change your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence. No matter how many interviews you've heard of Michael Pollan talking about his new book, our interview will offer you a fresh perspective, things he has not previously discussed and things that you may not have previously considered. The very last concept discussed in Eric's conversation with Michael Pollan will for sure leave you thinking anew.

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In This Interview, Michael Pollan and I Discuss...

  • His book, How to Change your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence
  • How fear is a big motivator in people's action and inaction
  • That your obstacles are all between your ears
  • How consciousness is a big mystery
  • What the newest science tells us about psychedelics
  • The way psychedelics affect us by allowing us to look at normal, everyday consciousness in new ways
  • The default mode network going quiet during a psychedelic trip
  • The ego, idea of self in the brain and our life
  • Psychedelics impact on the sense of self
  • The experience of the dissolution of the ego
  • The mind-expanding power of mystical experience
  • The theory of the entropic brain
  • How the brain works to reduce uncertainty and surprise
  • The narrowing of consciousness by rigid thinking
  • The stories our brains tell us
  • Insufficient entropy in the brain perhaps leading to mental illnesses
  • Psychedelics disordering the brain
  • The similarities between a tripping brain on psychedelics and a meditative brain
  • An ego-free state of consciousness through the use of psychedelics
  • The mistake of seeing spirituality as the opposite of materialism
  • The opposite of spiritual being egotistical
  • The ego keeps us from having a deep connection with everything around us
  • How psychedelics are "wasted on the young"
  • That those in the 2nd half of their lives may benefit most from the use of psychedelics
  • The importance of breaking the rigidity that growing older brings
  • How psychedelics can help us make peace with our death
  • Psilocybin benefiting those facing imminent death with great fear
  • How psychedelics and a psychodynamic approach are not opposites
  • "Psychedelic assisted psychotherapy"
  • Positive trauma in the brain
  • Administering an experience rather than a drug
  • The importance of set and setting when taking a psychedelic
  • How a spiritual experience alone doesn't make a spiritual life
  • That ego is nothing but a contraction

 

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0:00.0

I think fear is really a key driver of human action and inaction.

0:05.3

Welcome to The One You Feed.

0:15.9

Throughout time, great thinkers have recognized the importance of the thoughts we have, quotes

0:20.6

like garbage in, garbage out, or you are what you think, ring true.

0:26.0

And yet, for many of us, our thoughts don't strengthen or empower us.

0:30.2

We tend toward negativity, self-pity, jealousy, or fear.

0:35.0

We see what we don't have instead of what we do, we think things that hold us back and

0:39.6

dampen our spirit.

0:41.4

But it's not just about thinking, our actions matter.

0:44.8

It takes conscious, consistent, and creative effort to make a life worth living.

0:49.6

This podcast is about how other people keep themselves moving in the right direction, how

0:54.0

they feed their good wolf.

1:10.6

Thanks for joining us.

1:11.6

Our guest on this episode is Michael Pollan, author of many books, including Cooked, Food

1:17.4

Rules, In Defense of Food, The Omnivores Delama, and The Botany of Desire, all of which

1:23.2

were New York Times bestsellers.

1:25.3

A long time contributor to the New York Times magazine, Michael also teaches writing at

1:29.7

Harvard and the University of California Berkeley.

1:32.5

In 2010, Time Magazine named him one of the most influential people in the world.

1:38.2

His new book is How to Change Your Mind, What the New Science of Psychedelics teaches

1:43.1

us about consciousness, dying, addiction, depression, and transcendence.

1:48.3

Hi, Michael.

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