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Brian Kilmeade Show

Michael Oren: Israel/Hamas war could be the most transformative for the region

Brian Kilmeade Show

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🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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0:00.0

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0:04.9

Oh, yeah, there's no doubt about disarming rockets and missiles, the factories that assemble them,

0:10.9

the factories that do the manufacturing, particularly of the small range rockets, the tunnel complexes themselves.

0:17.0

All of this has to be done before anybody talks about restoring Gaza. And if Hamas doesn't

0:23.1

disarm, there's no restoring Gaza until that fact takes place. And that is what is on the table

0:29.1

in phase two. And it remains to be seen. Is Hamas lying to us when they say yes, we'll disarm?

0:34.6

Likely. The opportunity for them to surrender and get their own personal

0:38.2

freedom is on the line here. We'll see if they're going to take Israel up in the United States on

0:42.9

that. So that's a huge question mark. So there you go. General Jack Keen wrong with me earlier today,

0:48.1

talking about what has to happen in phase two of this operation, but extremely pleased that

0:52.1

there's a phase one. So we understood, too,

0:54.6

Steve Whitkoff put out on social media that the clock has begun to tick on the 72 hours.

1:00.2

What am I talking about? Well, it was 24 hours to return to back up to a yellow line inside

1:06.6

Gaza for the IDF, and they did that. And we watched this morning as thousands are pouring back

1:13.6

into it. I think is Gaza City. I don't know Gaza too well, but it looks like they're pouring into a

1:17.2

major city back. So they believe it's going to be peace. And then the clock starts ticking as soon as

1:24.0

the IDF was in place on 72 hours to return the 48 hostages, 20 plus, we hope, are still alive. Michael Oren joins us now very much involved in all this, former ambassador, Israeli ambassador to the United States. Ambassador, welcome. Good to be with you, Brian. Hi. Some morning. Yeah, so when did you realize this was indeed possible? Do you remember a day or when you thought,

1:44.6

okay, this could happen?

1:45.9

If you would have asked me two weeks ago whether it was possible, I would have been very doubtful.

1:50.6

This, you know, before I was an ambassador, I was a professor of history, of military,

1:54.7

diplomatic history. That document, those 20 points, was one of the most impressive,

1:59.6

elegant pieces of diplomacy that I've seen from any country, maybe even in decades. But it consisted of things that other countries and you guys want it, correct? I mean, it wasn't coming out of thin air. This was almost like a best of, wouldn't you think? I think, you know, everyone's talking at all, most of the American media is talking about all the pressure that was put on Netanyahu, put on Netanyahu. Betanio. Well, I saw you straight now at MSNBC. Yes, all that. You know, everyone's talking, you know, most of the American media is talking about all the pressure that was put on Netanyahu, put on Netanyahu.

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