Michael O'Leary on Elon Musk, air traffic control and drinking at airports
Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast
The Independent
3.6 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 8 minutes
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Summary
In which the chief executive of Ryanair – Europe’s biggest budget airline – challenges the world's richest man to an arm-wrestling contest.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to today's independent travel podcast with me, Simon Calder. It's Thursday the 22nd of January. |
| 0:10.2 | If you were kind enough to listen yesterday, you would have heard me on a plane being late talking about Concord. |
| 0:18.8 | Well, today I have actually been able to bring you the results of my slightly |
| 0:25.4 | delayed trip to Dublin. I've been speaking to the chief executive of Ryanair about, well, |
| 0:33.7 | all sorts of things, including Concord, including drinks on planes. |
| 0:38.6 | But we started out with the spat that is happening between Michael O'Leary of Ryanair and Elon Musk, |
| 0:47.6 | proprietor of X, Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink, which Mr O'Leary said he didn't want on his planes. |
| 0:58.2 | Michael O'Leary, you've sent Elon Musk, the world's richest man, a free Ryanair ticket. |
| 1:03.5 | Are you trying to soothe things? |
| 1:05.3 | I don't think so. |
| 1:05.9 | I think he deserves a reward given the amount of free publicity he's generated from Ryanair over the last five days. |
| 1:12.1 | We've seen a big surge in visitors to the Ryanair website and their mobile app. |
| 1:16.2 | Yesterday we launched this big idiot seat sales celebrating the spat between Elon Musk and myself, |
| 1:21.5 | where 100,000 seats are available over the next three days for just 17 euros or 17 pounds one way, bringing low fare |
| 1:29.7 | air travel to many more millions of UK and European citizens. And I think we should all be |
| 1:34.2 | grateful for Elon Musk for helping to promote Ryanair in our low fare flights. Hang on though. The seat |
| 1:39.8 | sale says if I'm not mistaken, this is for Elon Musk and other idiots are you really calling |
| 1:45.3 | your passengers idiots well no I mean we said well our passengers are free to have |
| 1:49.3 | available these seats but we've deliberately pointed the seat sale at Elon Musk and |
| 1:54.1 | idiots on X if we can widen our passenger profile encourage more people to get |
| 1:59.0 | out of their bedrooms, posting anonymous |
| 2:00.9 | rubbish on social media platforms, and get out and travel and see more of Europe and interact |
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