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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Michael Needham on the Republican Party's crack-up

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2016

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Want to understand what's happened to the Republican Party? Then listen to this discussion.Michael Needham is the CEO of Heritage Action for America, where he's been one of the activists at the center of the fight between the Republican establishment and the conservative movement that's trying to overturn it. The Wall Street Journal called Needham "the strategist at the center of the shutdown" and the Washington Post wrote that "Before Donald Trump began terrorizing the Republican establishment, there was Michael Needham."But Needham is no fan of Trump, either. In this discussion, Needham talks with Ezra about the roots of Trumpism, whether the conservative insurgents have released forces they can't control, and what kinds of statesmen he thinks American politics has lost. Also, Ezra finds someone who is even more confident in the healing, unifying powers of public policy than he is.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:00.9

Welcome to another episode of The Ezra Klan Show.

1:10.4

I am excited today because we've got Michael Needham who is head of heritage action,

1:15.0

one of the most important conservative activist groups, interest groups.

1:19.7

It's associated with the heritage foundation, think tank, but it is really played a crucial

1:24.6

important role in pushing the more anti establishment tea party inflicted conservatism that has

1:32.3

taken over certainly the congressional wing of the Republican Party in recent years.

1:36.8

It is obviously a fascinating time for the Republican Party.

1:40.4

And I think Mike has had a really unusual, interesting vantage point on that.

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