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Michael Munger on Industrial Policy

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🗓️ 31 October 2022

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Economist and political scientist Michael Munger of Duke University talks about industrial policy with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Munger argues that in a democracy, the default outcome for industrial policy is crony capitalism--attempts to improve on that outcome either by appointing experts or eliminating cronyism are going to fail for political reasons. The conversation concludes with a discussion of the reliability of Munger's claim and what options are left for dissatisfied reformers.

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Welcome to Econ Talk, Conversations for the Curious, part of the Library of Economics

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and Liberty.

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I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Shalem College in Jerusalem and Stanford University's Hoover

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Institution.

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the information related to today's conversation.

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You'll also find our archives, but every episode we've done going back to 2006.

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Today is October 18th, 2022, and my guest is Mike Munger of Duke University here for his

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43rd appearance on econtalk.

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Mike, welcome back.

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It is such a pleasure as always, Russ.

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Thank you.

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Our topic for today is industrial policy.

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Our conversation we based on a recent article you've published in the Journal of Law

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Economics and Policy that we will link to.

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But let's start with the basic definition.

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When people talk about industrial policy, what do you think they have in mind today?

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It may have changed over time, but it's a very popular topic.

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What do people have in mind?

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Well, if you do nothing, you still have an industrial policy in the sense that there's a set

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