This is Ovious and Jillio.

Let's podcast. It's another very special OG Ovias and Friends edition of the show. Joe Gillio is still on assignment. He's up in Port Smith with James who turned 21. I hope that I hope that Jillio is functional when he's back tomorrow that we don't have a Super Bowl repeat. I mean, you know how he gets after it. We shall see. We shall see what he gets back.

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West Durham's going to join us from ESPN, ACC Network in a few minutes after I get done making some, I think, salient points about Mike Malone.

And one comparison that's been annoying me.

We'll also be joined by Walker Mail of WFNZ and Lockdown Hornets to talk about the NBA aspect of Mike Malone.

Get a little Hornets talk in there, little Panthers talk in there as well.

We'll also check in with Luke DeKock again, not about Mike Malone, but about the final four.

I thought he wrote a really interesting piece for

Welcome to Hell World. We'll trust me, we'll explain what that is a little bit later on.

But Luke was there seeing what was a unique final four with the current state of college basketball.

And we keep seeing this word used, crisis. And the central question is, who exactly is experiencing the crisis?

The players are getting paid. The ratings are up. College basketball is at an all time high in terms

of ratings and engagement, things like that. So who exactly is experiencing the crisis?

I think I have the answer, but we'll get to that. And of course, our friend Mike Manascalco,

lost in all the stuff that's been going on. Admit it, this is my own issue. With all the stuff that's been going on with Carolina, NC State, Duke, the Final Four, all that kind of stuff, we have been caught up in basketball. It happens this time of the year. And the can't are still going strong. And they have an opportunity to wrap up the Metropolitan Division tonight as they wrap

up their home slate against the Boston Bruins.

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