Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

I shouldn't tell you this, but Eric hired someone who sounds just like him to host today's show.

But since I'm the announcer, they told me.

So I am telling you, don't be fooled.

The real Eric's in jail. And welcome am telling you, don't be fooled. The real Eric's in jail.

And welcome.

Thank you, Todd.

Thank you very much.

Hey, folks, this is a serious program.

Ignore the announcer because we talk about serious issues on this program, sometimes with

some levity, nonetheless, serious issues.

For example, today, I get to have a conversation. You get to

listen in with the author of a brand new book. I immediately spotted this book as vital and

important. It is titled, The New Class War, Saving Democracy from the Managerial Elite,

the author Michael Lind is with me. He is the author of many, many books, even books of poetry. He's a free contributor to the New York Times, financial times, national interest, foreign policy. He's taught at Harvard. What? Johns Hopkins. He's been an editor, a staff writer for the New Yorker. Harper's The New Republic, The National Interest. Sounds like somebody I'd love to get in the studio. Michael, would you come into the studio sometime? I'm here. Really? Oh, well, then, fascinating. How convenient. When I read the review of your book, I just thought this is something I'm so interested in. So for people tuning in, please tell my audience, what do you mean when you say

the new class war saving democracy from the managerial elite? What do you mean? Well, I argue that a number of

seemingly unrelated phenomena, the election of Donald Trump in the United States, the Brexit vote,

and all of the turmoil that caused in Britain, the revolt of the yellow jackets in France,

and a lot of what are called populist rebellions on both sides of the Atlantic represent backlash by the mostly but not disproportionately,

not entirely white and native working class in these Western democracies

against a previous period in which the managerial elite defined as mostly college

credentialed managers and professionals and executives have just accumulated much more power

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