4.6 • 9.8K Ratings
🗓️ 18 October 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Against the Rules producer Lidia Jean Kott is the host of a new podcast series called The Chinatown Sting. It’s about a group of unlikely suspects at the center of a massive drug bust that took place in 1980s New York. Recently Michael spoke with LJ about her series at a coffee shop in Brooklyn called Land to Sea.
You can listen to all six episodes of the “The Chinatown Sting” on Apple, Spotify, pushkin.fm/chinatown, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:05.3 | Tim Harford here. |
| 0:06.5 | I'm the host of cautionary tales. |
| 0:08.9 | We've teamed up with a couple of other great shows from the Pushkin Network |
| 0:12.4 | to bring you a special episode all about mistakes and what we can learn from them. |
| 0:17.2 | They said, swish the ketamine around in your mouth and then spit it out. |
| 0:20.4 | And I swished it around in my mouth around in your mouth and then spit it out. And I |
| 0:21.3 | swished it around in my mouth for about 30 seconds and then I swallowed it. |
| 0:26.3 | Listen to the episode on Cautionary Tales, available wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:41.2 | Pushkin. |
| 0:47.1 | Hey there, it's Michael Lewis here with a special episode. |
| 0:54.1 | While she's been working on this show, my producer, Lydia Jean Cott, has also been working on a new show of her own. It's called |
| 0:55.4 | The Chinatown Sting, and it's an international crime saga that takes place in the late 80s and |
| 1:01.1 | early 1990s. Earlier this week, I talked with L.J. about the Chinatown Sting at an event at a |
| 1:08.0 | coffee shop in Brooklyn, called Land to Sea. |
| 1:13.7 | That's a place that hosts monthly Mahjong nights, |
| 1:17.2 | a game that's a little bit like Domino's and relevant to her show. |
| 1:22.5 | Here's our conversation, and then we'll hear part of the first episode. |
| 1:26.2 | I hope you'll go subscribe to the Chinatown Sting. |
| 1:30.6 | All six episodes are out now, and it's a great listen. |
| 1:48.0 | So why don't we start by, I want you to just explain, you don't have to tell the whole story because you don't want to ruin that way, but how you stumbled into the story. |
| 1:51.9 | Like this, how you got this material because the material is great. |
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