Michael Levin and Joscha Bach: The Shape of Collective Thought
Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal
Curt Jaimungal
4.6 • 606 Ratings
🗓️ 9 November 2022
⏱️ 117 minutes
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| 0:11.0 | Michael Levin's work on regulating intractable pattern formation in living systems, has made him one of the most compelling |
| 0:20.9 | biologists of our time. In translation, this means that his team is sussing out how to develop limbs, regenerate limbs, how to generate minds, and even life extension by manipulating electric signals rather than genetics or epigenetics. His work is something that I consider to be worthy of a Nobel Prize, and I don't think I've said that about anyone on the podcast. Michael Levin's previous podcast on Toe is in the description. |
| 0:40.4 | That's a solo episode with him, where we go into a two-hour deep dive, as well as there's a theolocation, so that is him and another guest, just like today, except between Carl Fristin and Chris Fields on consciousness. Yoshabak is widely considered to be the pinnacle of an AI researcher, dealing with emotion, modeling, and multi-agent systems. A large focus of Bach is to build a model of the mind from strong AI. Speaking of minds, Bach is one of the most inventive minds in the field of computer science. And has appeared several times on Toe Prior. Again, there's a solo episode. There's also a theolocation between Yoshabakh and Donald Hoffman on consciousness, and |
| 1:13.2 | Yoshabakh and John Vervaki also on consciousness and reality. |
| 1:16.1 | Biology has much to teach us about artificial intelligence and vice versa. |
| 1:20.2 | This discussion between two brilliant researchers is something that I'm extremely lucky, blessed, |
| 1:26.1 | fortunate to be a part of, as well as us as collective as an audience |
| 1:29.8 | that are fortunate enough to witness. |
| 1:31.4 | Approximately 30 minutes into the conversation, you'll see two sponsors. |
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| 2:01.1 | Additionally, you'll hear from one more trade coffee around the one and a half hour mark. Thank you and enjoy this theolocation between Yoshabakh and Michael Levin. Welcome, both Professor Michael Levin and Yoshabak. It's an honor to have you on the Toll podcast. Again, both of you and then together right now. Thank you. It's great to be here. |
| 2:07.7 | Likewise. I enjoy very much being here and look forward to this conversation. I look forward to it as well. So we'll start off with the question of what is it that you, Michael, find most interesting about |
| 2:13.1 | Yoshah's work, and then Yosha will go for you toward Michael. Yeah, I really enjoy the breadth. |
| 2:20.3 | So I've been looking, I think I've probably read almost everything on your website, |
| 2:24.3 | you know, the short kind of blog pieces and everything. |
| 2:27.3 | And yeah, I'm a big fan of the breadth of tackling a lot of the different issues that you do with respect to, |
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