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Eric Mataxas.

Eric Mataxas.

Eric Mataxas. This is Eric Mataxas. This is the Eric Mataxas show and folks have we got a show for

you as you know this is the show about everything and on the show about everything we like to cover a lot

of stuff. Perhaps even everything. So today we're talking with my friend pastor Michael Brown,

Dr. Michael Brown. Welcome to the program. Great to be with you. I don't know where to start with you

because I've known anybody that I've known for a long time. I get this kind of like rascally

look on my face because you're a lot of fun. I admire your mind. I admire your courage. I remember

when I thought of you first as a preacher at Times Square Church. I was you know maybe 29 or 30.

I was at Times Square Church before I even met Suzanne and you were you were preaching there and

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