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Okay.

Yala.

Let's do this.

I'm not sure. Okay, Yala. Let's do this. We, the people of Israel, we, the people of Israel, are prepared and anxious to meet the representatives of our neighbors without any preconditions.

There are people in Israel and elsewhere.

Say it's impossible to make peace between the Arabs and Israel or the Jewish people.

I think they're home.

Recently, we put out our two-part episode on Palestinian statehood. And like I said then,

there was way more in our interviews than we could possibly fit into those two episodes. But each

conversation was fascinating and instructive on their own terms. So we're sharing them with you.

And we're starting with the first interview we recorded

my conversation with Michael Koppel. Michael is the chief policy officer at the Israel Policy Forum.

And he came in ready to ground us in history. He walked me through all the different attempts

at Palestinian statehood, his understanding of how each one fell apart, and what less sins we might

take from those failures.

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