From away to garden.com and Robinhood Radio.com, this is Away to Garden with Margaret

Roach.

You're a weekly invitation to dig in and grow.

The term food forest from the permaculture world sounds big.

Like if I suggested you start one, you'd probably say, I don't have room for a forest of any

kind. But today's guest vets that most of us don't have room for a forest of any kind.

But today's guest vets that most of us who guard

and have room for at least a little bit of fruity

deliciousness in the form of a tree or two

underplanted with some carefully chosen companions.

Like maybe where a portion of the front lawn is right now,

and maybe emphasizing native fruiting species.

Maryland-based Michael Judd is a long-time

champion of edible landscaping. The author of various books including, for

the love of Paw Paws, and he hosts an annual Paw Paws Festival each

September. Lately he's even the creator of a new app called Fruit Patch to help

you get started on your own little food forest. So welcome Michael, how are you?

Hi Margaret, good. Good. I'm always happy to talk plants with you.

Harvest time going on down there? Oh yes. Harvest a bunch of American elderberries and beach plums

today. I'm with my little girl and we're gonna make some popsicle juice out of it.

I know you make the most interesting recipes because of course elderberries,

you know you don't kind of take them off the plant and shove them in your mouth at most points in

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