MICHAEL HESELTINE talks to Ian Dunt: “Keep the faith. Brexit is a disaster.”

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 24 February 2021

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Our 250th edition! In the Thatcher governments of the 80s Michael Heseltine was the loudest voice for embattled One Nation Toryism. In later years he’s become a hero to Remainers, eventually paying for his Europhilia with expulsion from the party. Ian Dunt talks to him about the future of Toryism, what it was like to work with Margaret Thatcher, what he makes of Keir Starmer… and whether circumstances will force Boris Johnson back to the One Nation Toryism we thought he’d driven out of the party. “The most sensible thing for Britain is to reapply to join the EU. It won’t happen soon – but it should.” “Yes, Margaret Thatcher would have pandered to popular opinion. She was a politician. But she would never do anything as reckless as leaving the Single Market.” “The words of the Levelling Up agenda are fine. What’s completely missing is the deeds.” Presented by Ian Dunt. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Logo and branding by Mark Taylor. Music: Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. The Bunker is a Podmasters production See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:18.2	party. He also championed right to buy and forced an unwilling government to pay attention
1:22.3	to Liverpool, then in economic decline.
1:24.1	His leadership training in 1990 effectively ended both Margaret Thatcher's prime ministership and his
1:29.1	own hopes of leading the Tories, but he stayed on as an important part of the major government and in later years he was one of the most powerful pro-European voices in the Tory party speaking at many a remain rally.
1:40.0	In 2019 he had the Conservative whip suspended for saying he'd vote Lib Den over Brexit.
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1:45.6	Hello there, how are you?
1:46.6	I'm fine, but it is not true to say that I had a whip suspended because I talked about voting lived in.
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