Good Tour racial, okay though, good tour race show, okay though. There is such a thing as being black famous the writer Michael Harry coined this term to mean well let

him define it.

Influencer it's a word that gets tossed around a lot these days.

There is a woman who went the distance, who broke ground as the first true influencer

by living a remarkable life.

Her name Elizabeth Taylor.

I'm Katie Perry.

This is the story of the original influencer.

This is Elizabeth the first.

Elizabeth the first, the podcast, wherever you listen.

You have a really interesting notion about Black Famous,

which you put out as one word.

And I think it's a concept that a lot of people

were aware of, but hadn't named in that way, hadn't fully articulated in that way.

And in some ways the cultures are becoming more kind of integrated.

I think when you and I were growing up,

there were definitely like people like,

like white people did not care about P-Funk.

White people did not care about Rick James, right?

They did not care about Al Green, and these people were legendary to us.

We get to the 80s and 90s, there's more crossover, there's more people who are loved by both cultures.

But you threw out a question, I didn't I know either you

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