Michael Gove's Ex-Advisor Tells Me Workers Shouldn't Get Pay Rise. Here's What I Told Him.
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🗓️ 27 August 2024
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| 0:00.0 | I tell you what there is no more refreshing starts of the day than getting up first thing |
| 0:04.3 | cycling to Sky News's studios in Westminster and having a big old banny with a former |
| 0:10.4 | advisor to the Conservative Cabinet Minister Michael Gove about |
| 0:13.2 | where the front line workers should get a pay rise. |
| 0:15.9 | Now, in a bit of context, the new Labour government has decided to try and |
| 0:20.0 | settle with trade unions following long-running strikes with improved pay deals and that's set off the Tory press who are themselves run by |
| 0:27.0 | extremely rich people and the Considered by who are funded by extremely rich people and just to emphasize a party which |
| 0:36.8 | systematically trash the country. Now as I discussed labors pay deals are not |
| 0:40.5 | the extravagant Benanzas they're being portrayed as if only. |
| 0:44.4 | They don't restore workers wages to what they used to be. |
| 0:47.9 | They don't actually meet all of the unions demands at all, which is something I would personally advocate, but they are an improvement over what |
| 0:56.2 | the Conservatives offered. |
| 0:57.7 | Now the former Tory advisor Charlie Rowley makes this extraordinary claim to be that everyone is suffering. |
| 1:05.0 | That's probably news to the booming rich, isn't it? |
| 1:07.5 | But anyway, here's my first response, setting out the overall context. |
| 1:11.5 | And do you think it's an unfair expectation to think that after one settlement is agreed with one particular |
| 1:18.2 | union that that would lead to no further strikes from the members of that union for at least an extended period of time? |
| 1:25.4 | No, I don't. You know, the one statistic that people always have to bear in mind, I think we're looking at the state |
| 1:29.7 | in this country, is that workers have gone through the longest squeeze in wages since the Battle of Waterloo. |
| 1:35.0 | That's the last time we had this extended squeezing wages. |
| 1:38.0 | The average worker is no better off than they were in 2010. |
| 1:42.0 | There was no precedent for that. |
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