Michael Gove: I’m more right-wing than Farage, Reform are just a protest party
The Daily T
The Telegraph
4.1 • 705 Ratings
🗓️ 5 June 2026
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
The former Conservative cabinet minister Michael Gove joins Camilla Tominey and Tim Stanley on today’s Daily T podcast to talk about the Mandelson files, the upcoming tenth anniversary of the Brexit referendum and the Makerfield by-election. He says the Tories are the only credible party on the right, that Reform are merely a “protest party”, that he’s more right-wing than Nigel Farage, and that Rupert Lowe and his Restore party are “a joke”.
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Highlights
- Michael Gove says the Conservatives are the only credibly party on the right
- He also criticises Restore, calling Rupert Lowe and his party "a joke"
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph. |
| 0:10.1 | He says reform isn't even conservative. |
| 0:13.2 | In this explosive interview with Michael Gove, he claims to be more right-wing than Nigel Farage |
| 0:18.8 | and unleashes on Stama's hapless government. |
| 0:22.4 | Welcome to The Daily Tea with me, Tim Stanley. |
| 0:24.5 | And me, Camilla Tominy. |
| 0:36.3 | Michael Gove joins us in the studio. |
| 0:38.2 | We would have listed your former ministerial role. So there's just too many of them. So let's just call you the editor of the spectator and be done. And say that you're an ex and current Tory. You're never an ex-Torrie, are you? No, no, no, no. Nobody leaves the KGB. No, indeed so. And actually, let's talk about... Publish on Rob Jenrick. Now, well, did you hear this week that, not the KGB, but equivalently, that Sir Ed Davy had a tap on the shoulder, he claimed, in the 1980s at university? Because somebody wanted him to join MI6. Can you imagine? That's either a lie. Same happened to me. Did it? Yes. Tell us everything, Michael. I can't. I signed the official secrets act. But... When was this and how did it play out? |
| 1:11.5 | Um, so, Did it? Yes. Tell us everything, Michael. I can't. I signed the official secret sect. |
| 1:13.0 | Where was this? |
| 1:14.4 | And how did it play out? |
| 1:22.2 | So I applied to join the foreign office after I was sacked as a reporter at the Press and Journal in Aberdeen. |
| 1:26.3 | And I was interviewed, but in the end it wasn't taken forward. |
| 1:28.3 | Were you quite excited about the prospect? |
| 1:30.4 | It was fascinating, and I can't see any more. |
| 1:31.9 | Honestly. |
| 1:36.6 | Well, I tell you what you can talk to us about, your political editor, Tim Shipman's brilliant scoop, |
| 1:41.0 | about the unseen Mandelson messages that have gone to Darren Jones. |
| 1:43.8 | I have been enjoying this. Honestly, having interviewed Darren Jones, |
| 1:46.0 | who was the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, now the Chief Secretary to the Prime Minister, |
| 1:49.7 | obfuscate and roll his eyes and at times patronise me on my GB News show, |
| 1:55.1 | it is interesting to find out that he has secretly been toadying up to Mandelson and that you've got the receipts. |
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