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Deep Cover: The Real Donnie Brasco

Michael Franzese - Realities of the Mob and Life

Deep Cover: The Real Donnie Brasco

Jam Street Media

Tv & Film, Film Interviews, True Crime

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

On this special episode of Deep Cover, Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone are joined by ex-Colombo crime mobster turned motivational speaker Michael Franzese. He shares his personal testimony about the ways in which “the life” negatively impacted him and his family. Son to the notorious former underboss, Sonny Franzese, Michael was not only born into the life but contributed for nearly 20 years prior to incarceration which prompted his uncharacteristic exit.  Michael and Joe met in their separate endeavors along the way and detailed the extent of their relationship then and now. Tune in for a true tale about the Mafia life from one of their very own. Have a question about this episode, a tape, or a past episode? Ask it here. Connect with us on social using the links below: Instagram: @deepcoverpodFacebook: @deepcoverpodcast Twitter: @deepcoverpodcast Episode Notes:[00:47] Intro with Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone [01:07] Introduction to Michael Franzese [03:09] Franzese speaks on his meeting with Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano [05:00] Joe remembers his first time meeting Michael Franzese in “the life” [06:32] Michael Franzese breaks down how he and his family were impacted by the mob life. [09:04] Franzese shares the story of his father, Sonny Franzese, who was imprisoned until 100 years old. [11:36] What defines a leader? [12:35] Franzese, Joe, and Leo discuss the relationship between crime mob and cops [15:03] Franzese shares his relationship with Bernard “Bernie” Welsh [16:47] Sonny Black’s girlfriend relays a message to Joe post-trial [18:14] Franzese gives Joe his flowers [20:09] How did Carmine “Junior” Persico run the family from prison? [23:22] Michael Franzese’s dad agreed with the mob's decision to put a contract on his son’s life [24:37] Nicky “Glasses” Marangello has a message for Donnie [26:52] Leo shares a story about Carlo Gambino and the new age of mobsters [29:47] The old neighborhoods just aren’t the same [31:26] Michael Franzese speaks on his recent book, “Mafia Democracy” [35:02] Franzese shares the similarities between the government and the mob [38:04] Franzese went into business with an Armenian vineyard [40:00] Outro [40:26] Questions from the motion lounge Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

We all love mob movies, Scarface, The Godfather.

0:10.9

The list goes on and on.

0:12.4

But there's one movie that speaks to me more than all the others, Donnie Brasco.

0:17.5

It's actually based on a true story, and you know what they say.

0:20.5

Truth is stranger than fiction.

0:22.3

I'm Leo Rossi.

0:23.5

I've spent my life behind and in front of the camera creating stories about the mob.

0:28.8

We're going to go off the page and talk to the real life, Donnie Brasco.

0:36.9

This is Deep Cover, The Real Donnie Brasco, with Joe Postone and Leo Rossi.

0:46.3

Hi, our loyal listeners out there.

0:51.3

This is Leo Rossi and Joe D. Pistone, aka Donnie Brasco. How you doing, Joe?

0:59.6

Good, Leo. How are you today? Good, good. I'm very excited. We've got an old friend of yours

1:05.4

and a new friend of mine on, Michael Francis. And he, well, I saw a movie years or years ago when I was a kid called

1:15.4

To Hell and Back. Ordie Murphy, he was a congressional winner in World War II. He was a big

1:22.3

hero. And I think we can safely say that Michael was in hell and came back.

1:30.8

Hell being the mafia.

1:33.6

And it's betrayal.

1:35.2

It's treachery.

1:37.1

It's always the friend will do the deed.

1:40.4

And that's frightening in itself that your best friend is the guy they're going to go to to set you up.

1:46.7

But, you know, Michael was getting hit with indictments.

1:51.7

He was very successful getting hit with indictments.

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