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🗓️ 27 July 2025
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Former Trump national security adviser retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn found himself at the center of a national firestorm when he was charged with lying to the FBI over a phone call he had with the Russian ambassador to the United States.
The DOJ would later drop the case, saying there was no “legitimate investigative basis” to have targeted him.
In his new book “Pardon of Innocence,” he details his story.
As new documents are released by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, we sat down with the 33-year military veteran to understand how he sees everything that happened to him, almost a decade later.
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| 0:00.0 | The weaponization of the United States government against its own citizenry is very real. |
| 0:06.9 | It happens on a daily basis, and it doesn't just happen to high-profile political figures. |
| 0:12.6 | Former Trump National Security Advisor, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, found himself at the center |
| 0:17.7 | of a national firestorm when he was investigated by the FBI for fabricated |
| 0:22.6 | ties to Russia. In a case riddled with contradictions and inconsistencies, Flynn was charged |
| 0:28.8 | with lying to the FBI. Back in 2020, in a candid two-part interview, he shared his story |
| 0:34.6 | with us. |
| 0:35.5 | The deep state buried me six feet under. |
| 0:38.3 | The American people saved me. |
| 0:40.3 | You know, and if there's something I'll get emotional about is that. |
| 0:43.3 | As revealing new documents are released by Director of National Intelligence, Tilsie Gabbard, |
| 0:48.3 | we sit down with this 33-year military veteran |
| 0:51.3 | to understand how he sees everything that happened to him almost a decade later. |
| 0:56.0 | And maybe one of these days, Tulsi will do it. Maybe she'll give all the transcripts out to show |
| 1:01.0 | that what I was doing is I was protecting the United States of America from enemies foreign |
| 1:07.0 | and domestic. And they knew it. This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kellick. |
| 1:14.8 | Michael Flynn, so good to have you back on American Thought Leaders. |
| 1:18.4 | It's great. I love it. And I watch American Thought Leaders all the time. |
| 1:24.6 | I wouldn't say that I watch every minute of every show, but I think the people that |
| 1:30.1 | you have on are people that are out there doing the work that needs to be done, and it's |
| 1:37.7 | fascinating stories, fascinating people. And I think that's what people are looking for these |
| 1:42.4 | days. Is there, you know, that's why we're here today to talk about a story that's, that most people can't believe. This is the whole thing. I mean, of course, I've been reading Pardon of Innocence. And it really is astonishing. I mean, it's been such a long time. Of course, we've been covering this story at the epoch times. I mean, various aspects of it, not everything, both from your perspective and then the |
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